tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post8128248736440941186..comments2021-11-16T06:32:26.025-05:00Comments on AE Transparency: First-Round Voting Deadline Passes At Americans Elect; May 8 Primary "Cancelled"AE Transparencyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01845523513289837235noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-22348203254343246982012-05-03T02:19:54.640-04:002012-05-03T02:19:54.640-04:00AE's technical incompetence is amazing. The w...AE's technical incompetence is amazing. The website says that every delegate who tries to sign in to take part in a caucus (like the one now scheduled for May 15) will be required to click on the correct "security image" for that person. In the instructions, those images are various animals. But, after I log in correctly, I am shown a "security image" consisting of 3 letters only. When I click on "Not my security image? Click here", the site logs me off and returns to its home page. What a mess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-75373771382841711942012-05-03T02:03:39.881-04:002012-05-03T02:03:39.881-04:00AE is going to attack the political establishment?...AE is going to attack the political establishment? What a laugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-42452276999974440762012-05-01T19:22:03.432-04:002012-05-01T19:22:03.432-04:00Thanks for your $0.02, Dr. Bill.
For readers who...Thanks for your $0.02, Dr. Bill. <br /><br />For readers who may not know, William Kelleher is an Americans Elect Corporation 'Delegate Leader', and has worked closely in support of its Rapid Response Team (sic).AE Transparencyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01845523513289837235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-43773799325798448452012-05-01T19:05:37.161-04:002012-05-01T19:05:37.161-04:00Why not tell it like it is, bro? Peter Akerman is ...Why not tell it like it is, bro? Peter Akerman is "A Traitor to His Class"! <br /> <br />But why doesn't the nation know this?! <br /> <br />Here is why: <br />The PR contractors muddled the AE brand in two big ways. First, they let fear-driven suspicions about a Wall Street trick fester in the public’s mind. They should have had a fast moving, sharp tongued response team. (All they had was a general news magazine sent out by email and called rapid response.) <br /> <br />Second, by letting Americans think that AE is a “third party” they really screwed up. Americans yawn at the prospect of yet another party on the political scene. Of course, it’s not a “party” at all. It has no policy slate, or issue positions. It’s a PROCESS for holding an online primary w/o the domination of the two-party system elites. <br /> <br />AE should have been presented as what it is – a bold challenger to the status quo. Instead, the PR people sent out a couple of soft spoken Mr. Nice Guys who didn’t want to offend anyone, but who wanted to be Everyman’s Friend. That’s not the spirit that drives political reform! <br /> <br />Now, AE has to recover from the PR damage its paid contractors have caused its brand. We have to make it known that our focus is on Political Reform, and that we are the up-coming challengers to the dominant two-party system. We should NOT present AE as Everyman’s Friend, because we don’t want to be friends with the Established Elites – we want to kick their butts off the political stage! <br /> <br />Once folks start hearing that message, they will start to pay more attention. So, changing the AE image should be at the top of our long term agenda. (For more, <br />http://tinyurl.com/7nruy9p ) <br /> <br />William J. Kelleher, Ph.D. <br />Email: Internetvoting@gmail.com <br />Blog: http://tinyurl.com/IV4All <br />Twitter: wjkno1 <br /> <br />Author of Internet Voting Now!William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16795242019533325261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-51300747461287286432012-05-01T14:05:02.430-04:002012-05-01T14:05:02.430-04:00Others have accused us of being a Romney smear cam...Others have accused us of being a Romney smear campaign. Thanks for your comment; it restores our 'centrist' credentials!AE Transparencyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01845523513289837235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-59860056756699934172012-05-01T13:51:20.168-04:002012-05-01T13:51:20.168-04:00Ae transparency is an Obama smear campaign because...Ae transparency is an Obama smear campaign because he cant run on his accomplishmentsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-52138507660653269402012-05-01T12:52:52.761-04:002012-05-01T12:52:52.761-04:00Fair enough, Joshua. Although we think that puttin...Fair enough, Joshua. Although we think that putting out some kind of notice that "Oh, by the way, that whole May 8 Primary thing is cancelled..." would have been an nice touch. There are still tens of thousands...no, wait a minute, hundreds...no, wait a minute, dozens...no, wait a minute, one's and two's...of delegates madly clicking away thinking they're working to get their candidate onto a May 8 ballot which isn't going to happen. That should warrant some kind of note on the 'Candidates' page. But Pete Ackerman's AECorp has never been very good at communicating honestly and openly (which, in the end, will go down as one of the major reasons for its now certain failure).AE Transparencyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01845523513289837235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-34268346402841231092012-05-01T11:54:06.805-04:002012-05-01T11:54:06.805-04:00The only significant point here where we disagree,...The only significant point here where we disagree, I think, is that you wrote that AE didn't put up "a notice on the web site's 'Candidates' section that further votes won't count toward candidate qualification for the next round of voting". They will count toward qualification for the next round of voting -- the one scheduled for May 15. <br /><br />Telling delegates that further clicks won't count toward qualification for the May 8 round (because that round's deadline has passed) would be more confusing than helpful, since there are other rounds beyond the May 8 one that the candidates are still allowed to qualify for.Joshuanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-24408942725888489472012-05-01T11:13:31.155-04:002012-05-01T11:13:31.155-04:00As noted in our 11 AM update at the end of this ar...As noted in our 11 AM update at the end of this article, Americans Elect press secretary Ileana Wachtel has just confirmed to us that the May 8 Primary ballot is now cancelled due to failure of any candidate to earn enough support clicks; AE now moves on to the May 15 Second Primary round. So, second is the new first.AE Transparencyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01845523513289837235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-76620898124376576832012-05-01T10:46:07.826-04:002012-05-01T10:46:07.826-04:00The February 2011 press release you cite refers to...The February 2011 press release you cite refers to the Pre-Election Convention rules we linked to in this article (above), which state: (Rule 7.1): "The Primary Rounds shall be held on May 8, 2012, May 15, 2012, and May 22, 2012," and (Rule 2.2.2): "Each Declared Candidate shall demonstrate public support by Delegate Support Clicks on the Website 7 days before any Primary Ballot on which the Candidate seeks to be considered, to provide sufficient time for a Candidate Certification Committee review prior to the first Primary Ballot."<br /><br />Therefore, support-clicks required to advance to the first May 8 Primary Round ended at midnight on May 1, as we have stated.AE Transparencyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01845523513289837235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-36739691879057506922012-05-01T10:36:44.219-04:002012-05-01T10:36:44.219-04:00You're correct, Joshua, that additional suppor...You're correct, Joshua, that additional support clicks probably still should count toward the 2nd caucus on May 15 (although the rules are sufficiently ambiguously written to leave this a little unclear). Nonetheless, the deadline for support clicks to count toward the first May 8 caucus expired at midnight last night, with NO candidate earning enough support clicks to make it onto that first caucus ballot. Given the significance of that event, it is nothing short of remarkable that AECorp chooses simply not to comment on that fact.AE Transparencyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01845523513289837235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-43604149546054719232012-05-01T10:32:49.091-04:002012-05-01T10:32:49.091-04:00See also this press release which explained that i...See also <a href="http://www.americanselect.org/news/2-2012/proposed-ae-rules-amendments-give-candidates-more-time-qualify-ballot" rel="nofollow">this press release</a> which explained that it was indeed their intention to allow candidates until a week before the last primary ballot to qualify.Joshuanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8309931040176906905.post-70794255977324681622012-05-01T10:29:07.500-04:002012-05-01T10:29:07.500-04:00New support votes are supposed to be counted towar...New support votes are <i>supposed</i> to be counted toward candidate qualification for the next round of voting. See Rules 2.2.2 and 3.2.2, in which a candidate "shall demonstrate public support by Delegate Support Clicks on the Website 7 days before any Primary Ballot on which the candidate seeks to be considered ...." There are three primary ballots provided for in the rules, and when AE changed the schedule of primary ballots, they also changed the rules to make it possible for a candidate who missed the first primary ballot deadline to qualify for the second or third.<br /><br />Presumably, nobody is going to qualify for the second or third deadline, either. But compliance with the existing rules would require AE to keep accepting support clicks for candidates through May 14 to give candidates a chance to qualify for the second and third primary ballot.Joshuanoreply@blogger.com